Not a real Christian?

I listen to a lot of Theist vs. Atheist conversations and debates and the same themes come up time and time again. One thing that a lot of Theists don't understand is that many of use were former born again Christians and that studying his word is what made us Atheists.

One of the only ways Christians can wrap their head around that is to declare that we were never true Christians and we were never truly saved. They declare once you believe you cannot stop believing so therefore we must have been deceived.

They can use a multitude of verses to back this up. Things like.

Mark 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved, but he that believeth not shall be damned.

There are a lot of verses like this and it has led to a doctrine of Once Saved, Always Saved in many Christian sects. In other words, someone filled with the power of the Holy Spirit remains saved by grace forever.

Jesus is your get into Heaven free card!

So if it's not true then God, how would we know until it's too late?

I remember when I accepted Christ. I remember standing in front of the congregation in my church tears streaming down my face with everyone's hands on me. I render absolutely believing I was feeling the power of the Holy Spirit of a living God inside me.

I remember all the other times I felt that presence. I would have sworn it was real.  I even believed, truly believed I had spoken in tongues.

I believed so much I wanted to become a preacher and started really studying the bible. I'll save my deconversion story for later, however, I was not angry at God and I didn't want to go sin or do evil. I wanted to follow God and I wanted to spread his word.

So there I was honestly believing that the holy spirit was in me and I was ready to dedicate my life to spreading the word of God. I absolutely 100% believed this.

And yet, apparently, I was deceived. Apparently, my conversion was not real. No matter how much I felt it was true it was obviously false. Of course, as an atheist, I think all conversions are false, but at that time I was a true believer.

So if the theist is right then I have to wonder...

• Why did God allow me to be deceived in his Church?
• How could I have not been deceived after all I prayed and thought it was real?
• Did God know in advance, even before my birth that I was going to be deceived?
• How can anyone justify a God who would allow his followers to be damned for a lie they couldn't help but believe?
• If you're a theist and believe that God would allow me to be deceived how can you possibly know that your own experience is real?

How can a Christian trust any of this? What about your friends and your family? If you serve a God that would allow fake conversions to happen in his holy sanctuary how can you possibly know you, your friends or your family are actually saved? How would you feel if you got into his Heaven and those you knew were doomed to hell because they only thought they were saved?

How in the Hell could you trust anything?

Even worse... what if I'm still saved? Is there a button to OPT OUT? Can I unsubscribe?

Where Giants Come From According To Genesis.

Since I was already discussing the flood and Noah in a previous blog, let's look again at the silliness of that theme. Do you know where Giants come from?

Jolly Green Giants? Who knows where they came from?

According to the bible. Genesis 6:4 Giants are the result of the Sons of God (I'll go ahead and assume we are not talking Jesus' literal brothers here) mating with human women. 

There is a strong case to be made that this was the entire reason for the flood in the story (since Genesis 6:4 happens right in the middle of the flood story). Maybe, it wasn't that mankind was wicked or evil. Maybe that was not the kind of corruption that Genesis was talking about. Maybe the reason for the flood was that God failed to control the penises of his angels and he doesn't like halfbreeds. 

Once again in the bible, we have an all-knowing God letting things happen that are apparently against his plan. Things an all-knowing god being should have known were going to happen before he ever created the planet. He couldn't stop the angel sex orgies so he decided to drown every living thing and start again.

According to some Angels don't even have the right junk!

Such this dickless angel from the movie Dogma!

According to some biblical scholars, angels do not even possess free will (which is of course instantly disproven by Satan's rebellion),  so why God couldn't keep them from fornicating worth human chicks is beyond me.  Also, we know from the story of Lot that wicked humans can not resist trying to rape angels.  So I guess unprotected angel sex is just something that happens in biblical times.

Boom Chicka bow wow...

What mortal woman could resist angel sex?

If this was the reason for the flood though it quickly becomes apparent that this was a major fail on God's part.

After flooding the world and killing every living thing (which was major overkill) he either missed a few spots or he did nothing at all to keep this corruption from happening again.

We know in the bible that the giants came back after the flood. David and Goliath (and Goliath's six brothers) are the most obvious example, but in the Exodus there are several tribes the Israelites fear because they have giants with them and King Og of Bashan was a giant whose bed was 13.5 feet long. So whatever God did to prevent a repeat didn't work. If the story was real he killed everything with absolutely no plan to make sure it didn't happen again. Everything dead, everything drowned, a few centuries pass and "BAM" we got giants again.

Goliath had to come from somewhere.

God did nothing to fix it.

Nothing at all.

The giants came back.

Not these giants.

More like these giants.

Did the omniscient God not know this would happen? Did an all-powerful God knowingly let it happen again right after killing everything? What was the point of it all anyway?

I mean really,  even if you don't believe in this giant nonsense what was the friggin point.  He killed everything and then did nothing to change things. It seems like those crazy angels were still sexing up human babes all over the place.

I guess he finally got it right since no evidence for giants exists.

This was 100% FAKE by the way!

Andre was an awesome giant - but he doesn't count!

Or maybe he was the result of angel sex too?